Imagine
for
a
second
trying
to
memorize
a
really
complex
quantum
physics
textbook.
Oh,
that
sounds
rough
already.
Right.
But
now
imagine
trying
to
do
that
while
standing
in
the
middle
of
a
loud,
flashing,
totally
chaotic
arcade.
Like
the
bells
are
ringing,
neon
lights
are
blinding
you,
people
are
bumping
into
your
shoulders.
Yeah.
I
mean,
no
one
is
passing
that
test.
Exactly.
If
I
hand
you
a
quiz
10
minutes
later,
you
are
probably
going
to
fail.
But
what
if
the
problem,
you
know,
wasn't
your
intelligence?
What
if
the
problem
wasn't
the
Welcome
to
today's
Deep
Dive.
If
you
are
joining
us,
it's
because
you
are,
well,
you're
that
insanely
curious
learner
who
always
wants
to
look
under
the
hood
of
human
behavior.
You're
looking
for
those
hidden
mechanical
gears
that
drive
how
we
act,
how
we
think,
how
we
interact.
And
today
we
have
a
really
phenomenal
mission.
We
are
cracking
open
a
stack
of
research
from
the
Lumos
newsletter,
specifically
edition
009.
And
it
completely
flips
the
script
on
neurodivergent
behaviors,
especially
regarding
autism
and
ADHD.
Okay,
let's
unpack
this.
Because
we
aren't
just
doing
some
dry
medical
review
today.
We
are
completely
refraining
the
things
that
society
constantly,
you
know,
slaps
the
label
on
and
just
dismisses
as
bad
behavior
or
defiance.
Yeah,
we
are
going
to
look
squarely
at
the
biological
realities
driving
those
behaviors.
Because
when
you
dig
into
the
neurological
mechanisms
coming
out
of
these
recent
studies,
you
quickly
realize
something
huge.
What
looks
like
a
refusal
to
cooperate
or
maybe
slowness
is
actually
just
the
brain's
sensory
and
cognitive
filtering
systems
working
in
an
entirely
different
way.
Our
goal
today
is
to
basically
strip
away
the
assumptions
and
stop
moralizing
behavior
and
look
at
the
actual
gears
turning
inside
the
brain.
Let's
start
right
there
with
those
gears,
specifically
how
the
brain
filters
information,
or
in
a
lot
of
cases,
struggles
to
filter
it.
Right.
So
the
Lumos
newsletter
highlights
this
really
interesting
study
published
in
Science
Advances.
They
used
a
video
game
called
Geode
to
study
visual
perception
across
the
autism
spectrum.
And
importantly,
this
included
individuals
with
profound
autism,
which
is
a
group
that
often
gets
left
out
of
cognitive
research
entirely.
Yeah,
which
is
a
huge
gap.
So
what
they
found
completely
redefines
what
it
means
when
an
autistic
individual
is
labeled
a
quote
unquote
slow
learner
in
a
new
environment.
The
traditional
and
frankly
quite
outdated
assumption
has
always
been
that
if
someone
with
autism
is
learning
a
new
task
slowly,
there's
just
a
fundamental
lack
of
cognitive
capacity,
like
a
deficit
model.
But
the
GEODE
study
disrupts
that
entirely,
doesn't
it?
It
really
does.
They
found
that
autistic
participants
were
taking
longer
to
learn,
not
because
they
lacked
the
capacity
to
understand
the
primary
task,
but
because
of
something
the
researchers
called
sensory
noise.
Sensor
noise.
OK,
so
we
are
back
in
the
arcade.
Exactly.
What
does
that
actually
look
like
on
a
neurological
level?
Like,
why
is
the
brain
struggling
to
just
focus
on
the
screen?
What's
fascinating
here
is
the
mechanics
of
the
brain's
sensory
gating
system.
Every
single
second,
our
nervous
system
is
bombarded
with
millions
of
bits
of
data.
Visuals,
sounds,
the
feeling
of
your
socks
on
your
feet,
the
hum
of
the
refrigerator.
Things
we
don't
even
notice
most
of
the
time.
Right.
A
neurotypical
brain
has
a
highly
automated
filtering
system.
It
basically
subconsciously
tags
most
of
that
data
as
safe
and
irrelevant,
and
it
pushes
it
to
the
background.
That
way,
the
conscious
mind
can
focus
purely
on
the
primary
task.
But
for
the
autistic
participants
in
the
study,
that
sensory
gating
system
is
like
highly
porous?
Yes.
The
brain
is
letting
all
that
environmental
data
in
at
an
equal
volume.
It
treats
the
hum
of
the
fridge
and
the
texture
of
the
sock
with
the
exact
same
level
of
urgency
as
the
textbook
you're
trying
to
read.
Meaning
the
background
static
isn't
getting
muted
at
all?
Not
at
all.
So
the
individual
isn't
slow.
Their
brain
is
simply
processing
a
vastly
larger
data
set
than
a
neurotypical
brain
is
in
that
exact
same
room.
The
bottleneck
is
the
environment,
not
their
intelligence.
Wow.
And
the
study
highlighted
a
really
crucial
metric.
This
level
of
sensory
noise
was
actually
a
better
predictor
of
a
person's
daily
functioning
than
their
core
autism
diagnosis.
Wait,
really?
That
is
wild
to
think
about.
The
label
of
the
diagnosis
itself
tells
you
Scientific
research
about
autism
subtypes,
genetics,
autism
subtypes,
robot
therapy.
Two
hosts.
Alex
and
Jamie.
Scientific
research
about
autism
subtypes,
genetics,
autism
subtypes.
Two
hosts.
Why
won't
they
focus?
The
question
you
should
be
asking
an
occupational
therapist
is,
is
sensory
noise
hindering
this
routine?
You
literally
have
to
turn
off
the
flashing
lights
of
the
arcade
before
you
open
the
textbook.
Exactly.
You
have
to
lower
the
sensory
noise.
But
that
brings
us
to
a
really
glaring
question.
If
the
arcade
is
this
overwhelming
and
sensory
noise
is
this
critical
to
how
a
person
functions
day
to
day,
how
is
the
medical
field
missing
it?
That
is
the
million
dollar
question.
Right.
Which
leads
us
to
our
next
source.
It's
a
study
from
the
Irish
Journal
of
Psychological
Medicine
looking
at
a
massive
diagnostic
blind
spot
between
ADHD
and
autism.
This
is
such
a
systemic
issue
in
psychiatry
right
now.
Historically,
the
medical
model
really
prefers
neat,
tidy
boxes.
You
know,
you
meet
the
criteria
for
ADHD
or
you
meet
the
criteria
for
autism.
And
the
treatments
are
totally
distinct.
The
therapies
are
distinct.
Everything
is
separate.
But
this
new
study
looked
at
young
adults
diagnosed
with
ADHD,
and
it
revealed
that
a
staggering
53%
of
them
also
meet
the
full
criteria
for
autism.
Here's
where
it
gets
really
interesting.
Wait,
53%?
Over
half.
If
the
overlap
is
that
massive,
how
on
earth
is
the
medical
system
missing
this?
Are
the
symptoms
identical
or
are
doctors
just
stubbornly
staying
in
their
silos?
Because,
I
mean,
if
I
go
to
the
doctor
for
ADHD
and
they
give
me
standard
ADHD
medication,
but
I'm
actually
in
that
53%
who
also
has
autism,
my
sensory
issues
aren't
going
to
get
fixed
by
a
stimulant.
No,
they
won't.
And
the
symptoms
are
not
identical,
but
they
frequently
mask
each
other.
Often
the
hyperactivity
or
severe
inattention
of
ADHD
is
like
the
loudest
symptom
in
the
exam
room.
It's
the
one
causing
trouble
in
class.
Right.
It
is
externalized.
It
disrupts
the
classroom.
So
it
draws
the
doctor's
focus
and
that
gets
the
diagnosis.
Meanwhile,
the
underlying
autism,
the
internal
sensory
overwhelm,
the
social
exhaustion
is
totally
ignored.
Or
it's
misinterpreted
simply
as
a
byproduct
of
the
ADHD.
Wow.
And
the
research
specifically
noted
that
women
and
girls
in
particular
show
much
higher
sensory
sensitivities
that
go
completely
unrecognized
in
these
overlapping
cases.
Why
is
it
always
women
and
girls
who
slip
through
the
cracks
in
these
diagnoses?
Well,
it
often
comes
down
to
internalizing
versus
externalizing
behaviors,
which
is
heavily
driven
by
societal
expectations.
Girls
are
often
socialized
to
mask
their
discomfort
and
just,
you
know,
blend
in
socially.
Right.
Don't
make
a
fuss.
Exactly.
So
instead
of
disrupting
the
class
when
the
sensory
noise
gets
too
loud,
they
internalize
it,
which
looks
like
inattention
or
anxiety.
The
doctor
sees
the
inattention,
diagnoses
ADHD,
and
stops
digging.
But
the
key
takeaway
for
you
listening
is
the
necessity
of
a
neurodevelopmental
approach.
Meaning
we
look
at
the
whole
brain,
not
just
the
loudest
symptom.
Precisely.
If
someone
you
love
or
you
yourself
has
an
ADHD
diagnosis,
but
it's
still
profoundly
struggling
with
social
interactions,
rigid
routines
or
sensory
environments
and
standard
ADHD
treatments
aren't
moving
the
needle,
you
have
to
look
deeper.
You
have
to
push
for
more
answers.
You
need
to
actively
investigate
those
autistic
traits
with
a
neurologist.
Bringing
up
this
53%
overlap
is
crucial
because
transitioning
into
adulthood
with
only
half
of
your
neurological
profile
supported
is
just
a
recipe
for
severe
burnout.
Okay,
so
we
have
sensory
noise
causing
learning
hurdles
and
we
have
a
medical
system
that
often
completely
misses
that
sensory
picture.
So
what
happens
when
those
ignored
sensory
issues
boil
over?
Oh,
they
definitely
boil
over.
Because
when
that
sensory
noise
becomes
too
much,
it
erupts.
And
let's
be
real,
as
a
society,
we
are
uniquely
terrible
at
interpreting
that
eruption.
Well,
we
absolutely
are.
We
tend
to
moralize
distress.
We
call
it
a
tantrum.
We
label
it
bad
behavior.
But
Lumos
Edition
009
brings
us
this
fascinating
study
out
of
Taiwan,
published
in
Frontiers
in
Psychology,
and
it
focuses
on
preschoolers.
A
really
critical
age
for
this.
Yeah.
The
researchers
looked
at
the
direct
link
between
sensory
processing,
So
kids
who
avoid
sensory
input
or
are
hypersensitive
to
it
and
their
capacity
for
self-regulation.
And
they
found
an
undeniable
biological
link
to
aggression
and
anxiety.
This
study
is
vital
because
it
recodes
our
fundamental
understanding
of
distress.
Let's
look
at
the
biology
of
what
is
actually
happening.
When
a
child
is
hypersensitive
to
their
environment,
their
nervous
system
isn't
just
annoyed.
It
is
interpreting
that
sensory
input
as
a
physical
threat.
So
like
an
itchy
wool
sweater
isn't
just
an
uncomfortable
piece
of
clothing
to
their
brain.
It
is
a
blaring
fire
alarm.
That's
the
exact
mechanism
in
play.
Because
of
that
porous
sensory
gating
we
talked
about,
the
sensation
bypasses
the
logical
reasoning
center
of
the
brain,
the
prefrontal
cortex,
and
it
goes
straight
to
the
amygdala,
the
brain's
threat
detection
center.
So
it
triggers
a
literal
fight
or
flight
response.
Yes,
the
resulting
behavior,
the
screaming,
the
hitting,
the
fleeing
is
a
meltdown.
And
we
have
to
clearly
differentiate
a
meltdown
from
a
tantrum.
Because
they
look
identical
on
the
outside,
right?
Like
it's
a
kid
screaming
in
a
grocery
store.
On
the
surface,
yes,
they
look
the
same.
But
internally,
they
are
entirely
different
events.
A
tantrum
is
behavioral.
It
is
driven
by
the
prefrontal
cortex.
The
child
is
trying
to
achieve
a
desired
outcome,
like,
you
know,
getting
a
candy
bar
or
staying
up
late.
And
if
you
give
them
the
candy,
the
tantrum
magically
stops.
Exactly.
Scientific
research
about
autism
spectrum,
genetics,
autism
subtypes,
robot
therapy.
Two
hosts.
So
if
you're
listening
to
this
and
you've
ever
felt
totally
helpless
watching
a
child
scream,
this
completely
changes
your
role.
Instead
of
immediately
issuing
a
timeout
to
punish
a
tantrum,
we
should
be
acting
like
detectives.
We
should
be
scanning
the
room
for
a
flashing
light,
a
high-pitched
hum,
a
restrictive
shirt
tag.
If
we
connect
this
to
the
bigger
picture,
it
changes
the
entire
paradigm
of
discipline.
Alesha
Dixon,
Ph.D.:
Adjusting
the
environment
prevents
dysregulation
far
more
effectively
than
traditional
behavioral
correction.
Because
you
can't
logic
someone
out
of
a
fight
or
flight
response.
Alesha
Dixon,
Ph.D.:
You
cannot
punish
a
nervous
system
into
feeling
safe.
If
you
observe
a
meltdown,
your
first
thought
shouldn't
be,
how
do
I
correct
this
defiance?
It
should
be,
what
is
the
sensory
trigger?
Once
you
remove
the
trigger,
the
biological
threat
response
can
finally
begin
to
settle.
It's
an
incredibly
empowering
shift.
You
aren't
fighting
the
child,
you're
fighting
the
environment
alongside
them.
Now,
sensory
overload
is
a
very
acute,
immediate
trigger,
but
what
if
the
room
is
perfectly
quiet?
Right,
no
sensory
triggers.
What
if
there
are
no
flashing
lights,
no
itchy
sweaters,
and
a
child
is
still
hopelessly
stuck
on
a
really
basic
daily
routine?
The
newsletter
points
out
a
completely
different
hidden
hurdle
that
impacts
long-term
daily
independence.
Let's
talk
about
something
as
simple
as
getting
dressed
in
the
morning.
This
is
where
we
move
from
sensory
processing
over
to
cognitive
processing.
The
newsletter
covers
a
study
published
in
Research
in
Developmental
Disabilities.
They
evaluated
autistic
children
between
7
and
12
years
old
using
something
called
the
BADLE
scale.
Okay,
I
saw
this
acronym
in
the
research,
BADLE.
What
exactly
does
that
measure?
Because
getting
dressed
sounds
like
a
basic
motor
skill
to
me,
not
some
complex
neurological
puzzle.
BADLE
stands
for
Basic
Activities
of
Daily
Living
Evaluation.
It
assesses
fundamental
tasks
for
independence
like
eating,
personal
hygiene,
and
dressing.
And
you're
right.
Historically,
when
an
autistic
child
struggles
to
gain
independence
in
these
areas,
people
just
assume
it's
a
motor
skill
issue
or
maybe
just
a
core
symptom
of
autism
preventing
them
from
participating.
But
the
study
proved
something
entirely
different,
didn't
it?
Completely
different.
The
data
show
that
executive
functioning
is
far
more
critical
for
daily
independence
than
core
autism
symptoms
or
motor
skills.
Okay,
executive
function.
That
is
one
of
those
clinical
buzzwords
that
gets
thrown
around
a
lot.
Let's
break
down
the
mechanism.
Because
if
a
kid
is
struggling
to
put
on
a
shirt,
it's
not
that
their
fingers
lack
the
coordination
to
push
a
button
through
a
hole.
No,
it's
actually
a
sequencing
problem.
Think
of
Scientific
research
about
autism
subtypes,
genetics,
autism
subtypes,
robot
therapy.
Two
hosts,
Alex
and
Jamie.
Scientific
research
about
autism
subtypes,
genetics,
autism
subtypes,
robot
therapy.
Two
hosts,
Alex
and
Jamie.
Hi,
this
is
Alex
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
Alex
and
Jamie.
Scientific
host,
Scientific
Welcome
back.
Welcome
back.
You're
welcome.
We're
glad
to
be
here.
So
in
order
for
you
to
be
able
to
get
started
with
this
podcast,
you
should
ask
your
occupational
therapist
specifically
to
evaluate
executive
function
and
help
you
build
these
external
scaffolds.
That
is
such
great
advice.
So
we've
looked
at
the
internal
hurdles.
We
understand
the
biological
reality
of
sensory
noise
and
those
sequencing
crashes
of
executive
dysfunction.
But
we
don't
live
in
a
vacuum.
No,
we
don't.
We
live
in
a
world
built
almost
exclusively
for
neurotypical
brains.
So
how
do
we
successfully
adapt
the
rigid
systems
of
the
outside
world
to
accommodate
That
really
is
the
ultimate
goal
of
all
this
research.
Translating
all
this
understanding
into
tangible
societal
change.
And
the
final
article
in
this
NW
edition
gives
us
a
brilliant,
highly
practical
example
of
doing
exactly
that.
In
one
of
the
most
notoriously
rigid,
sensory
unfriendly
environments
out
there,
primary
healthcare.
The
doctor's
office,
just
thinking
about
it,
honestly,
the
harsh
fluorescent
lights
The
creatures
around
them
never
turn
a
blind
eye.
And
there
are
real
answers
to
their
questions.
Stereotypes
of
non-autistic
people
have
much
to
do
with
that.
And
you
designed
it
with
the
people
it
affects.
Yes,
that
is
key.
And
the
intervention
they
introduced
wasn't
some
million-dollar
technological
overhaul
of
the
clinic.
It
was
incredibly
simple,
just
a
pre-appointment
questionnaire.
A
questionnaire.
Why
does
that
make
such
a
massive
difference?
It
really
comes
down
to
shifting
the
cognitive
load.
The
questionnaire
flagged
the
patient's
sensory
and
communication
needs
before
they
even
stepped
foot
in
the
clinic.
It
allowed
the
patient
or
their
advocate
to
explicitly
state,
here
is
what
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
welcome
to
the
A.L.T.E.
Podcast.
We
are
here
to
talk
about
autism
spectrum.
We
are
going
to
talk
about
the
two
main
types
of
autism
spectrum.
The
first
tipo
of
autism
spectrum
is
an
autoimmune
disorder.
It's
a
symptom
of
an
autoimmune
disorder
called
autism
spectrum.
The
autoimmune
disorder
is
an
autoimmune
disorder
that
is
caused
by
the
loss
of
blood
and
blood
pressure.
It
can
be
caused
by
the
lack
of
blood
pressure
or
the
lack
of
blood
pressure,
which
can
But
the
researchers
found
another
vital
benefit.
It
massively
boosted
clinician
confidence.
Oh,
really?
Yeah.
For
the
doctors?
Yes.
Doctors
genuinely
want
to
provide
good
care,
but
they're
rarely
trained
to
navigate
profound
sensory
needs
on
the
fly.
Having
the
data
beforehand
allowed
the
medical
team
to
proactively
prepare
the
room
and
themselves.
So
what
does
this
all
mean
for
you?
How
do
you,
the
listener,
actually
use
this
tomorrow?
You
don't
have
to
wait
for
your
clinic
to
formally
offer
an
adapted
health
check.
You
can
just
Hi
Jack
the
concept.
I
highly
recommend
doing
that.
Next
time
you
schedule
an
appointment
for
a
neurodivergent
child
or
even
for
yourself,
just
call
ahead,
send
a
message
through
the
patient
portal,
tell
the
pediatrician
beforehand
about
specific
biological
triggers.
Tell
them,
hey,
a
cold
stethoscope
triggers
a
fight
or
flight
response.
Can
the
doctor
warm
it
up
in
their
pocket
first?
Or
please
remove
the
paper
from
the
exam
table.
You
proactively
act
as
the
sensory
filter
for
that
environment.
I
couldn't
agree
more.
You
have
to
advocate
for
those
environmental
adaptations.
The
study
emphasizes
that
you
aren't
just
being
difficult
or
demanding.
This
is
a
science-validated
strategy.
Adapting
primary
care
in
this
way
is
highly
feasible.
It
costs
clinics
almost
nothing.
And
it
fundamentally
removes
the
barriers
that
prevent
neurodivergent
people
from
accessing
basic
healthcare.
It's
just
good
medicine.
Okay.
Let's
take
a
breath
and
look
at
the
sheer
amount
We
also
unpack
the
biology
of
a
meltdown.
We're
recognizing
that
it
is
an
involuntary
amygdala
driven
threat
response
to
sensory
input,
which
is
entirely
different
from
a
behavioral
tantrum.
And
we
learned
that
fostering
independence
isn't
just
about
motor
skills,
right?
It's
about
supporting
the
brain's
air
traffic
controller,
its
executive
ability
to
sequence
tasks.
And
finally,
we
saw
proof
that
when
we
adapt
our
rigid
environments,
like
using
a
really
simple
pre-appointment
questionnaire
to
shift
the
cognitive
load
at
the
doctor's
office,
We
can
completely
transform
the
experience
of
existing
in
the
world.
Which
brings
us
to
the
end.
This
raises
an
important
question
though.
One
that
I
think
naturally
flows
from
every
single
mechanism
we've
discussed
today.
We've
seen
how
the
environment,
not
the
individual's
inherent
capacity,
really
dictates
the
outcome
in
all
of
these
studies.
Which
leaves
me
with
this
thought
for
you
to
chew
on
as
you
go
about
your
day.
If
all
of
these
studies
definitively
prove
that
the
environment,
whether
it's
the
visual
static
in
a
classroom,
the
rigid
setup
of
a
medical
appointment,
or
the
overwhelming
texture
of
a
shirt,
if
the
environment
is
the
primary
trigger
for
distress...
Or
learning
barriers.
Yeah.
Right.
How
much
of
what
society
labels
as
a
disability
would
simply
disappear
if
we
just
designed
a
world
that
wasn't
so
incredibly
loud
and
flexible
and
demanding?
It's
a
really
powerful
thought.
It
really
is.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
on
this
deep
dive.
Keep
asking
questions.
Keep
looking
beneath
the
surface.
And
we
will
catch
you
next
time.